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I used to think similarly, that I wanted one computer in a phone form factor.

I've since changed my mind and don't want one computer at all. I want lots of them, each as isolated as possible and doing a particular task.


The bestiality thing is just utterly bizarre and inexplicable. Their attempted explanation and defense of it is even more bizarre.

But, honestly, the bestiality part isn't what concerns me the most. What concerns me more is accepting a history of animal abuse. Abusing animals is a classic indicator of psycopathology and people who abuse other people later in life.


Now you've made me think the bestiality thing is just to hide this. A history of animal abuse is a _strong_ indicator.

Is there something in the water supply over there? This is yet another datum supporting the “US speed-running its own demise” narrative. As an outsider it’s hard to watch all this and wonder 1) why has half the country lost their minds, and 2) where have all the adults gone?

Is this a variation on the kind of collective madness that, in other places at other times, instigated civilisational murder, except this time is triggering a civilisational suicide?


Really makes you question what sort of people they are trying to hire? Jan 6ers, Proud Boys, etc - this must be an impediment for K4$H's designs...

No, I don't buy into that at all.

I think that the genAI companies themselves present a greater danger to us (arguably not an existential danger, though) than genAI itself.


What's the difference?

The first thing on the top of my head is maybe that too large of a percentage of GDP is being spent on infrastructure for these companies that we don’t really need that could go to more useful investments.

genAI companies have, I believe, ill intent for us all. They are concerned with amassing wealth and power for themselves at the expense of ourselves and society. They are immoral.

genAI is a tool without any intention. It is amoral.

I'm not saying that genAI is harmless and the dangers can be ignored. I'm just saying that the dangers of the tool don't rise to the level of human extinction. That notion is something that genAI companies have been espousing from the very start, and it's part of their whole approach of manipulating people to achieve their goals.


I'm not going to argue with you on each point, just wanted to say that you're ignoring the very real possibility of large scale incidents which result not from ill will but from negligence or from not fully understanding the risks. The idea that the AI is just sitting there being neutral and it does whatever they ask it to do doesn't match with the events from the past few months.

It will take generations, if it's even possible, for the US to recover its standing in the eyes of the world, and that standing was the core of our power.

"Fixing ourselves" is critical, but just the first step. There's a huge amount of additional work after that.


The US never became the world's superpower because it did anything "moral" or had "character" or anything remotely like that. The US became the world's superpower because Europe and Japan decided to do WW2 and destroy everything, while committing atrocity after atrocity after atrocity.

It was never anything about the US per se that made it a superpower. It was to a much greater extent incredible moral, economic and military failings on the part of everyone else. From Albania to Zimbabwe, Morocco to China.

The US lost superpower status and boom. There are big shooting wars again. In Europe. In Asia. I was kind of hoping it to take at least a decade or two after the US lost control. Then again, maybe it has.


> The US never became the world's superpower because it did anything "moral" or had "character" or anything remotely like that.

I never asserted, nor do I believe, that it did.


Just the fact that they're generating images of fictional food rather than taking pictures of the food they actually make shows that the restaurant has no taste or care, or has a reason to hide their cooking.

Not infinite, obviously, but yes -- complex software will effectively always have additional vulnerabilities. It's a bit like how it's impossible to have a nontrivial logic system that is both complete and correct.

It's a core truth about security that perfect security is impossible to achieve. If there's a legal way to access something, there's also an illegal way. The only question is how much time and effort it requires.

This isn't just a computer thing, by the way. It's just as true for physical security as well.


I don't know. It seems to me that if genAI invents it, it's not a human language. At least not unless people start using it for real and introduce the inevitable human changes and touches over time.

A digital electronics design course I took at the local science museum when I was 11. It was free, so what the heck, I took it on a whim. I didn't know it at the time, but it set the course of my career for the rest of my life even though I'm a software, not electronic, engineer.

Personally, no. The existence of genAI has zero impact on that for me. It's simple to ignore it entirely.

this; I don't like it so I simply don't use it.

AI firms have given us every reason to distrust them. Particularly Altman and OpenAI.

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