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No, this is a right wing talking point against solar that isn't based in fact.

It's definitely brought up by anti-solar crowds. It's more accurate to point out that the risk is small rather than to dismiss the genuine concern. Solar panels can actually increase water quality because they replace diesel generators according to this nature article

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-021-00693-8

The concern is not completely unwarranted:

> Because over-canal systems are subject to a more humid environment than ground-mounted systems, over-canal PV panels might have increased reliability problems45. In tropical conditions, the water content in the encapsulant can exceed solubility, which can lead to the formation of droplets of water in the modules, sometimes causing corrosion or other problems

But overall "field experiments have shown that CdTe semiconductors can withstand hot and humid environments."


That article, and your quote, doesn't seem to support your pushback.

Of course, if a solar panel is broken, ground up and falls into a canal, it would put some heavy metals into the water.

The risk is basically zero and far lower than any other power generation source. It is a nonsense, bad faith "concern".


You're more likely to convince someone by pointing out the valid parts of their concerns than to outright dismiss them as rightwingers.

WTF? People aren't allowed to ask genuine questions anymore before being labeled politically? You are absolutely fucked by politics, not everything is left or right.

And as of the writing of this comment, ~7pm, about 25% of CA's grid is supplied by batteries: https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/supply

I was shocked when I saw how much batteries contribute, honestly don't hear about them much but they have scaled a lot in recent years.


Amazing what California can achieve when they don't have to deal with constant cease-and-desist lawsuits, eminent domain battles, environmental review challenges, etc (crying in high speed rail)

…and massive subsidies for the developers at the federal level…

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/califo...

Flattening the Duck Curve: batteries reach 44% of evening demand in California - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47633698 - April 2026 (5 comments)


I would love to see the major cities in California start building desalinization plants.

Every plant built would give us a much needed buffer and in the good times could even let us refill ground water (we'd never do that, I know).


Most desalination plants (at least the ones that are economically viable) focus on brackish groundwater, not ocean water. This contributes to the problem GP is pointing out. California already does more desalination than any US state other than Florida.

But there's a million environmental restoration projects we could be doing right now to increase the water holding capacities of our environments that are simply not being sufficiently funded. The science is pretty well done on most of these strategies while desalination of ocean water is still mostly an experimental technology that is not economically viable.


Israel is using desalination for agriculture. What's your definition of economically viable?

yes they are draining the dead sea. It's an environmental disaster and the loss of one of the most unique environments on earth.

I made a very clear distinction there between brackish water and ocean water.


So what's your definition of economically viable?

There's lots of sites on oceans that are making water for fractions of a cent per gallon. For instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minjur_Seawater_Desalination_P...


I don't know if you're doing it on purpose but Minjur is one of the most controversial sites in the desalination debate because of how much its bankrupting the government to fund it for such little water back. It's funded because of political necessity in SPITE of economic viability.

We just literally don't have the technology yet. It takes an immense amount of electricity/energy to desalinate ocean water which is way more saline than brackish water. The other half of the cost is in the very high rate of corrosion of equipment.

I'm not against desalination of oceanwater. I absolutely support funding more research into it. I'm just explaining the current state of technology. It just doesn't currently exist.


Have you considered adding this information to the Wikipedia article?

You seem to have advanced knowledge that is contrary to ~everyone else. It would be helpful if you would simply state 2 numbers. First, what you think it costs, and second, what you think an economically viable cost would be.


Just to be clear, desalination runs off seawater.

The Dead Sea is disappearing because the freshwater that flows into it keeps getting diverted for other uses.


I'm afraid your are misinformed. Perhaps the biggest desalination in Israel Sorek, on the Med coastline.

They are however, in talks with Jordan about piping water into the Dead Sea, and there is a similar operation for the Galilee.

There are however various salt mining operations around Dead sea using brine. That is, both in Israel, and less extensive in Jordan.


You do realize that agriculture uses 80% of the (mostly free) developed and deliverable water, while urban cities use about 10%?

That's true of basically all of the West and the Colorado River, too.


Sure do! But people die in a few days without potable water, crops are usually more drought resistant.

And yes, I do get the point that if you suggested we build $6B desalination plants to grow lettuce people would balk and say, "That's not worth the money!". We should use less water on crops.


People also die in a few weeks without access to agriculture. We could be growing less water hungry crops and raising drought resistant livestock, though.

It's bad but one thing not often pointed out in this conversation is that about 50% of water used in irrigation for agriculture returns as groundwater. In most other cases, used water ends up in sewers or evaporating

50% of 10% is still only 5%.

That and investing in better rainwater management -- those muddy torrents of water that pour into ocean would be much better if slowed down upstream and allowed to percolate into the aquifers.

Powered by solar

Even worse, once you're there, you toggle _on_ "Content & Privacy", and then what?

What does the toggle on for "Image creation" mean? Is that now restricted? Or is toggle off mean it is restricted?


I'm curious what kind of power distribution you work in. I've lived in suburban, rural, and urban places over the years and I've never experienced five 9's of uptime on the grid.

You work in grid/industrial?


The time to go public was about 16 months ago. People are waking up to large bills now, Chinese models are nipping at their heels, public sentiment has turned, money is becoming more expensive.

The market no longer cares about fundamentals, corporate structure, controls etc.

Too slow by my judgment.


You'll be happy to know that Cloudflare's headquarters is about three blocks away from the very room that this thread is about.

Extend the Stem!!

I have no idea why Apple has made AirPods harder to handle, impaired mic placement, and limited the battery capacity with shorter stems.

The longer stems offered more room for battery, got the mic closer to your mouth, and were so much easier to handle, manipulate etc.

Can't really fathom why they shortened the stem and made it harder for everyone, themselves and users alike.


I assume the long stem increases the likelihood it will be dislodged from the ear because it increases torque at the point of contact when moving. The first AirPods were much less secure in the ear than current ones. Reducing stem length may lower the risk of them falling out.

The long stem may have been a necessary but suboptimal engineering tradeoff to get the first version out the door. A lot of design tweaks have gone into making AirPods less likely to fall out.


The first airprods were so loose in the ear I thought the entire world was playing a prank on me when I tried them out.


This must be a personal preference based on ear anatomy.

The first-gen Airpods fit my ears perfectly, and were secure. When I lost them and upgraded to the 2nd gen, I was initially upset - aside from the body being fatter (and so less comfortable in my ears) they were very insecure - I couldn't even walk around without them loosening and dislodging.

I was on the point of returning them when I saw the advice online to 'twist' them into a different position. I now use them with the stalks horizontal, and they're secure. Still a touch less comfortable than the v1s, but easily tolerable.


My experience is the exact opposite. The new shape fits less well in my ear, hopefully they've chosen the best shape for most people, but the shorter stem provides no third point of contact like the old ones!

The longer stem used to have a better chance at contacting your face for some staying power. The shorter stems don't.


The long stems were literally the same length as on their wired headphones. They encased a bluetooth antenna and battery inside their existing design.


Personally I prefer it. Less chance of accidentally knocking them out.


I really miss the BeatsX headphones where it’s 2 earbuds attached to each other with a flexible cable that drapes over the back of your neck. It was nice to be able to take my headphones out without needing to hold them and they just fall over my shoulders like a necklace. Also means not having to keep track of a third item since there’s no charging case. And the whole thing is soft and flexible so you can put it more easily in your pocket without it bulging like the AirPods in a case do.

I find the “true wireless” form factor finnicky and comically easy to lose and easy to drop. I don’t really see much utility in it either aside from the cool technology flex. If they’d put the modern audio quality and noise cancelling on the BeatsX (and the more neutral AirPods response curve) I’d be first in line.


Aesthetics. Short stem looks sleeker.

Form vs. function


Do they? I don't think so. Makes them look stubby and more like a hearing assistive device (not particularly fashionable).

They looked sleeker and more balanced with the longer stem and in the ear more like jewelry.


Honestly the stems always looked kinda dorky to me


Or, you know, design trade-offs like every other hardware ever made.

I don't want to feel like I'm wearing one of those customer support head mics. I'm ok with shorter stem, and never had a problem.


Apple are king of form over function. Have we already forgotten that hack Jony Ive and his fetish for removing usefulness in favor of a few mm of thinness? Or the stupid fucking Touch Bar keyboard?

I still have a touch bar MacBook and the keyboard is unusable now.


The touch bar was not a bad invention. Apple just neglected it and never gave it the software support it deserved. With some proper development it could have been great.


The real problem is that they tried to replace the function keys (and especially the esc key) instead of supplementing them.


The touch bar was a terrible invention. Apple had no shortage of money to fix the software side, they just recognized that it wasn't a "Pro" feature.

Consider the most basic usage of the touch bar, displaying function keys. The tactile feedback of a physical function row enables most people to touch-type the function keys from home row. For IDEs, NLE/DAW workflows, UNIX terminal setups and cross-platform software, the touch bar had nothing to offer but downsides. And even in apps that supported it, there was no unified mnemonic standard that enabled you to use the touch bar strip without looking away from the monitor and losing sight of your content. Apps that copied the content into the touch bar were even more hilariously cornered into bad UX, displaying a postage stamp-sized status for whatever you're working on.

The common defense of the touch bar says it needed hardware reworks and greenfield HID architectures to succeed. But I think Apple realized it was a totally flawed concept, and iterated on it internally to the point that they realized it was a sunken cost fallacy.


I’m sure I’m not the only programmer that developed a habit of resting my finger on the F5 key at a certain point in my workflow, and then had to unlearn it just because of the stupid touch-bar (Still using my 2019 Intel MBP with stupid touch-bar).


> Or, you know, design trade-offs like every other hardware ever made.

Or different SKUs. Just saying.

Not that hard for the most profitable trillion dollar company on the planet.


You want there to be separate lines for "how long do you want your stems"?

Looking forward to your 18 SKU product matrix of decisions people have to make that they don't know what answer to choose.


>Extend the Stem!!

Same thought as well. It doesn't have to be much bigger, but even 10% longer would be much more useful from mic placement and battery perspective.


Longer stem means bigger case. The case on the Pro is nice, the regular one not so much.


Ew no. Long stem AirPods look goofy


It’s Apple so the answer is clear: shorter stems look nicer. Functionality be damned. You’re holding it wrong my dude. Nobody wants to look like they have q-tips in their ears.


So fade the stem to dark grey already.


Dirty q tips? Eww :)


The smaller the form factor, the closer they are to functional implants.


Also each device has to be identifiably different by at least some small margin, so the people who care about measuring worth/value based on the latest devices and similar trash can reject people based on what they "wear", pushing up device sales.


Invisible stems then?


Yup, big group when it's warmish, marching band. Big group when it's cold, symphonic band.


The point is that the state needs to flip enough that Trump would not be in a position to control what the state (the court actually) views as an official act.

If Trump continues to have enough influence in the SCOTUS after he's done being president, then yes, you could imagine they contort any action into an official act. But that'd be a failure of the next government to first establish a less biased SCOTUS (either by packing it or removing existing justices).


The next governement can't by itself make anything unofficial, if the SC would just deem it unconstitutional.


Right, which is why I mentioned that the first step is impeach justices or pack it.


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